Schooling with truth: Michelle Malkin, Jose Vargas talk illegal immigration

http://twitter.com/#!/michellemalkin/status/319548362493947904

Fascinating Twitter conversation today about #immigration b/w @joseiswriting and @michellemalkin. Really worth checking out.

— Kicker (@goKicker) April 3, 2013

Fascinating, indeed. It is a must-read conversation. But, how did this conversation come about?

For those of you just joining the discussion with @joseiswriting– Background: michellemalkin.com/2011/06/24/und… and michellemalkin.com/2013/04/03/the…

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

As Twitchy reported, the Associated Press caved to political correctness and open borders bullies by dropping “illegal immigrant” from its Stylebook. Twitchy founder Michelle Malkin wrote more about it today.

Just look at the ABC News coverage of the AP’s decision. “Journalist” Cristina Costantini praised the move and patted her own colleagues on the back for their progressivism. “Fusion, the ABC-Univision joint venture, does not use ‘illegal immigrant’ because we believe it dehumanizes those it describes and we find it to be linguistically inaccurate.” On her Twitter account, “journalist” Costantini gushed that AP’s capitulation came “thanks to the hard work of great people like @joseiswriting.”

“@joseiswriting” is Jose Antonio Vargas, the former Washington Post reporter who spearheaded the whitewashing of our language and our laws on behalf of illegal aliens. In 2011, with great fanfare and elite media sympathy, Vargas publicly declared himself an “undocumented immigrant.” Except, as he himself confessed, Vargas had documents coming out of his ears — including a fake passport with a fake name, a fake green card and a Social Security card his grandfather doctored for him at a Kinko’s.

Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) tweeted to Malkin this afternoon.

I’d love to cook dinner for @michellemalkin, make her adobo (traditional Filipino dish) and talk #immigration. Name a time/place.

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting Thanks. I like my adobo with an extra-heavy dose of vinegar.

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

@michellemalkin, I can cook it w/ more vinegar. I can make pork adobo or chicken-and-pork adobo. Name a time, place, I’m there.

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

That’s fitting. I understand you’re very good at delivering whine. RT @danavachon @joseiswriting @michellemalkin I’d volunteer as sommelier.

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

Heh. Dana Vachon is a Whiner McWhinerson, as Twitchy readers know.

Not in my book. I sincerely want to hear your views on #immigration “@michellemalkin: Because having diff pol views makes me a traitor.

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

@sundevilsal @latinovoter @michellemalkin, yes there is a big difference. Undocumented people like me want a process to become legalized

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

They decided not to wait for dinner, as yummy as the proposed dinner sounded. The conversation took place sans food … on Twitter. Guess what? Honest and blunt conversation can also be civil. Who’d have thunk it?!

Don’t believe us? Read their full exchange, including some input from fellow Twitter users.

@joseiswriting My views have been open book since 1992. You said you’ve read my work since 2001. We’re on opposite sides of this debate…

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

@michellemalkin, I’ve read your columns since 2001. I admitted to everything in @nytimes essay, then in @time cover.

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

@michellemalkin, I am most interested in your views on fixing our broken immigration system. Also, your views beyond US-Mexico border

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting Diversity Visa Lottery michellemalkin.com/?s=diversity+v…

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

@michellemalkin, about 1mil of 11mil undocumented ppl are Asian and Pacific Islanders, many of them Filipinos. What’s a fair solution?

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting Northern border: michellemalkin.com/2010/10/19/can…

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

@michellemalkin, I am for fair, common sense, humane immigration enforcement. ask @markmeckler

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

@michellemalkin, so what’s a solution? How do we fix our broken #immigration system? In a way that honors our past and serves our future?

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting Consular offices/visa screening – front lines for national security michellemalkin.com/2013/03/22/dum…

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting End congressional private relief bills for deportable aliens michellemalkin.com/2007/06/11/how…

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting The Board of Immigration Appeals/ immigration litigation lottery is being abused by criminal aliens – michellemalkin.com/2007/06/13/wel…

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting “Fair solution” to what?

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

@michellemalkin, fair, common sense, humane solution to a broken immigration system?

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting Let’s cut through smoke. When you say “fix our broken #immigration system,” you mean “amnestize me & 11 mil illegal aliens.”

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

@michellemalkin, 11 million immigrants like me are asking for fair process for legalization. This is not 1986. Reagan gave amnesty.

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting I have scores of “solutions” for prioritizing natl security, shoring up visa requirements, enforcing employer sanctions…

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting tightening consular screening, reforming immigration court system, ending green card application backlog…

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting but you don’t consider those “solutions” because they don’t solve *your* problem.

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

@michellemalkin, if I wanted to solve *my* problem, I would have kept my mouth shut, kept hiding and not start @defineamerican

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting And I am telling you that YOUR status, of your own making, is not my problem & should not be the federal govt’s priority.

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

@michellemalkin, so should I be deported? Or should I and others like me be given a process to legalize?

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

@michellemalkin, alas, I must take subway soon to a meeting. would love to continue this, either on Twitter or over adobo. salamat.

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

@michellemalkin, back from meeting. Responding to your tweets now.

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting It should be clear to you that my beef is not so much with you as it is with open-borders pols in BOTH parties…

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting …who refuse to take their constitutional duties seriously.

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting Yes, you should be. No you shouldn’t be given any more than you’ve already generously been given. You broke countless laws.

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

@michellemalkin, I’ve been ready to be deported from the day @nytimes published my essay. I called ICE myself when I wrote for @time

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

@michellemalkin, I was done–I am done–hiding and lying to the gov’t and country I call home.

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting You did so intentionally. You are blessed to be able to live here openly in defiance of US laws…

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting …while others around the world wait their turn.

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

Ok,that’s funny MT @planta If this was in Philippines, once @joseiswriting & @michellemalkin were done debating, they’d sing duet on karaoke

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

@michellemalkin, we can talk policy and politics all day. But I live this. It’s real, not about Dems or GOP

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting I don’t really know what that means. Of course it’s real. Not just for you. And of course it’s not just about Dems & GOP.

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

@donaldjoy @jilldlawrence @joseiswriting Don Young is an idiot.

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting @nytimes @time As I’ve said before, lucky you. You called govt’s bluff & you won. Count your blessings.

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

@michellemalkin, even though I don’t have a driver’s license or a US passport or a green card, I am incredibly blessed and privileged

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

@josemedinajr @jilldlawrence @joseiswriting Not popcorn. It’s adobo. Or lumpia.

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

And halo-halo! RT @michellemalkin: @josemedinajr @jilldlawrence @joseiswriting Not popcorn. It’s adobo. Or lumpia.

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting Yeah. You are.

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

Not a second goes by that I do not know it. Or own it. RT @michellemalkin: @joseiswriting Yeah. You are.

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

@michellemalkin, but questions remain: I am only 1 of 11 million. What does the gov’t–want to do w/ us? how do you define American?

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting On that we have absolute agreement. #GodBlessAmerica

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

@michellemalkin, if I am ready to be deported but the gov’t does nothing, what am i suppose to do?

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting And we’re back to this. Stand by…

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting So you are 1 of 11 million. So? There are 302 million other people living in America who didn’t break immigration laws.

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

@michellemalkin, I don’t want special treatment. neither do rest of 11 million undocumented immigrants. We want process to become legal

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting There are 302 million other people in America who didn’t commit immig document fraud.

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting There are 302 million other people in America with kids who want to go to affordable colleges.

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

I know. RT @michellemalkin: @joseiswriting There are 302 million other people in America with kids who want to go to affordable colleges.

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting There are 302 million other people in America worried about the economy, jobs, their future.

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

Of course RT @michellemalkin: @joseiswriting There are 302 million other people in America worried about the economy, jobs, their future.

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting What should the federal government do? Prioritize the 302 million people here legally over the 11 million here illegally.

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

Meaning? RT @michellemalkin: What shud the fed gov’t do? Prioritize the 302 million people here legally over the 11 million here illegally.

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

@michellemalkin, I am not here to take away a slice of a pie–I am here to make the pie bigger

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

@kyleraccio, yes, legal immigrants should be prioritized over those who are here w/o proper papers. that’s only fair. cc @michellemalkin

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting Well, you could do right by the “broken system” and leave on your own, which you have chosen not to do…

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting Or you can continuing living here in limbo, fairly sure but not completely certain that you will not be deported…

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting The uncertainty is the price you pay for the choice you make.

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

You are correct. But we need a process. RT @michellemalkin: @joseiswriting The uncertainty is the price you pay for the choice you make.

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting Pie…or bibingka…

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

How is demanding the government excuse your crimes not special treatment? MT @joseiswriting @michellemalkin, I don’t want special treatment.

— El SOOPer!! (@SooperMexican) April 3, 2013

@soopermexican @joseiswriting Precisely.

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

That IS special treatment. MT @joseiswriting I don’t want special treatment. neither do rest of 11 million…We want process to become legal

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

@michellemalkin, so, again, you would rather have 11 million undocumented people here STAY undocumented? with no process for legalization?

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

@michellemalkin, even tho US economy DEPENDS on undocumented workers. even tho we are at your classrooms, churches, stores?

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

@michellemalkin, would you rather I stayed in the #immigration closet and kept lying and hiding?

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

.@joseiswritingactually, forcing legal immigrants to wait while illegals take advantage of America IS special treatment @michellemalkin

— El SOOPer!! (@SooperMexican) April 3, 2013

@soopermexican @michellemalkin, I was ready for my gov’t to deport me. i never asked for special treatment.

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting You exaggerate. npr.org/templates/stor…

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

You are missing the bigger picture. RT @michellemalkin: @joseiswriting You exaggerate. npr.org/templates/stor…

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

It’s the least they could do. MT @joseiswriting undocumented workers paid $11.2 bil in state & local taxes in 2010: bit.ly/hfqc3b

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

we do more than pay taxes. we contribute to this country. we love this country. RT @michellemalkin: It’s the least they could do.

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

MT: the answer to “why don’t you just make yourself legal?”–how immigration system works: on.fb.me/YTvibW cc @michellemalkin

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

FYI: Refresher course on how crapweasel Schumer maneuvered for illegal alien tax amnesty in 1986 ==> cis.org/what-back-taxes

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting @michellemalkin And use even more than that in services, the difference taken from American taxpayers: fairus.org/publications/t…

— Mark Krikorian (@MarkSKrikorian) April 3, 2013

@joseiswriting It’s not all about you.

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

@michellemalkin, of course not. but again, how do we address the 11 million already here?

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

Breaking laws while advocating to erase them is a strange way to show your love for a country.@soopermexican @joseiswriting @michellemalkin

— MomMom (@OldDominionMom) April 3, 2013

So @joseiswriting keeps asking “How do we address 11 million?” Here: Hi, 11 million. Our govt sucks, so you get to stay for now. Lucky you!

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

@michellemalkin, so you’re blaming the broken bureaucratic system?

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

folks. PLEASE stop calling people names. i, for one, don’t tolerate immigrants being called “illegal” or women being called “cunt bag”

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

Ditto. RT @joseiswriting I am trying to have an honest, civil convo w/ @michellemalkin, yet people from LEFT and RIGHT are not being civil

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

.@joseiswriting Never mind the rest. Let’s let our exchange remain blunt, but civil — and hope it can serve as a model.

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

@michellemalkin, I completely agree.

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

I don’t care what else is going on. The exchange between @michellemalkin & @joseiswriting is the most riveting thing happening on the web.

— frederick (@clarko2012) April 3, 2013

ICYMI: How Mexico Treats “Undesirable” Foreigners & Illegal Aliens michellemalkin.com/2013/03/27/rem…

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

I’ll be blunter: Bull.Crap. MT @joseiswriting here’s blunt-but-civil fact: U.S. cannot function w/ undocumented workers. can. not. function.

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

@michellemalkin, is this “bullcrap”? Alabama economy lost millions after passing anti-immigrant law: bit.ly/xU9zeT

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

@txlatinchic @michellemalkin, undocumented workers are working and contributing to U.S. economy. that’s a fact.

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

Blunt, honest, civil and compelling. That’s what truth is!

@michellemalkin this is what offends me. This picture is a mockery of law. twitter.com/richardatwood/…

— @wood (@richardatwood) April 3, 2013

I will RT this again…US economy will NOT collapse if we got serious about illegal immig==> npr.org/templates/stor…

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 3, 2013

Thank u, @michellemalkin, for a blunt-but-civil chat. I look forward to more. And I’m serious about cooking you adobo. Take care.

— Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) April 3, 2013

I like that. “blunt but civil” cc: @michellemalkin @joseiswriting

— BiasedGirl (@BiasedGirl) April 3, 2013

We like it, too. Honesty, for the win. And the civility is beyond refreshing.

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